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PostSubject: Land Destruction, need help!   Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:45 am

my general idea is to use creatures that also destroy land and beat them to death before they gain enough land to be a serious threat. i like the idea of copying my creatures for, free/cheap, destruction on a regular basis. the real part I'm struggling with is numbers. how much of what? id like to run all those creatures in honesty, but if theres not always enough room and i get this. ive listed all the L/D spells i would consider and sertianly dont plan on using all of them. like i said the hardest thing for me is the numbers.

how many creatures/spells/artifacts/win conditions/ramp/ land do i need?

-cards for copying
Heat Shimmer
splinter twin
mimmic vat
Minion Reflector
Soul Foundry
Parallel Evolution

-L/D Creatures
acidic slime
Avalanche Riders
mold shambler
Barbarian Riftcutter
Orchish Settlers
Ravenous Baboons
Ravaging Horde
Ogre Arsonist
Faultgrinder
Goblin Gardener
Fire Snake
Dwarven Blastminer
Dwarven Miner
Dwarven Driller
Mine Layer
Pardic Miner
Stingmoggie
Goblin Settler
goblin ruinblaster


-L/D Spells
Decimate
Frenzied Tilling
Wreak Havoc
Creeping Mold
Demolish
Dwarven Landslide
Earth Rift
Feast of Worms
Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
Molten Rain
Melt Terrain
Lay Waste
Lava Flow
Lava Blister
Incendiary Command
Implode
Icefall
Ice Storm
Flowstone Flood
Fissure Vent
Fissure
Stone Rain
Seismic Spike
Roiling Terrain
Rain of Salt
Plunder
Pillage
Winter's Grasp
Wake of Destruction
Thermokarst

-Other cards/ ideasi would like to get in the deck
genesis
genesis wave
worldly tutor
sylvan tutor
Viashino Heretic
anger
squee goblin nabob
and some ramp and win conditions
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:50 am

i would also like to see at-least five anti control cards such as ricochet trap and autumns veil
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:45 am

dont forget a mana base. you'll need to consider stuff like strip mine, wasteland, tectonic edge, dust bowl, etc... with a dual colored edh deck you'll need between 33 and 38 land depending on your curve and how much ramp you want to run. In Kamahl, I only run 30 land but I have the ability to fetch 21 land out of my deck via ramp spells so it works out for me.

Oracle of Mul daya may be a good inclusion in this list to get you more land in play faster as well, plus all of the "in color" fetch lands (evolving, teramorphic, tarn, mesa, misty, verdant, and the older fetches)
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:42 am

oracle of muldaya is a great idea. i would run 35-36 lands in this deck.

also with your chick as your general run x burns spells great copy. i could run reverberate also.

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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:51 pm

i liike like th ieda with your general so u get a copy and like doug said run 36 land so u can play your general alot more and also u have u run a lot of ramp as well...
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:49 pm

i didnt see it but, you absolutely MUST run crucible of worlds, period.
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:55 pm

agreed
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:41 am

May be blind: Who's the General?
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:01 pm

well after looking again do u really need splitter twin? i mean i pretty sure there something better than that cuz thats only a situational card only...
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PostSubject: General...   Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:33 pm

I imagine it's Radha, Heir to Keld. Just a guess though.
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PostSubject: missing an important dude...   Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:01 pm

not sure if you're into spending $ on this... but I'd recommend the Goblin Settler (only printed in Starter back in 99) He's an avalanche rider minus echo... for like $10. Sad combos nicely with kiki jikki obv... also if you concentrate on the goblins you can use moggcatcher. (goblin grenadiers, gardener, settler, ruinblaster) just an idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:44 pm

im torn on the general. if i use radha then i get nice early ramp and more consistency. however if i use wort the raidmother i get better late game ending ability. im thinkning bout radha as my general and raidmother in the deck

thoughts on what ppl would do please?
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:54 pm

Radha, strictly to ramp and gain tempo.
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:00 am

thank you jay thats what i needed, kiki jikki is a nice additive. know any more copy things i could use?
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:48 pm

Bend or break is another ld spell. A little risky but it can turn a game.
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PostSubject: super secret squirrel tech.   Tue Jan 18, 2011 9:27 pm

Here's what you do big guy. Starcity games has their little search for a card window on the left. click advanced. now in the card text block, put "into play" or battlefield (both separately would be best) and choose goblin as a creature type. then it will list all of em. Very Happy Siege gang comes to mind... and the Matron. Also the Marshall. that's all off the top of my head.
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:06 pm

i might do goblins down the road, but for now im all out LD. oh, and i know how to use search engines you jackass
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PostSubject: hahaha   Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:38 am

of course you do. But you didn't want to do that, you wanted to be fed. Like a baby. lol! much love bro.... go gobo's!
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:16 am

no i just find that i miss some stuff when looking cause there are so many cards. like kiki jikki, missed him when i searched for copying creatures
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PostSubject: Re: Land Destruction, need help!   Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:25 pm

kikki jikki is so good in what you are doing. Also you can run splinter twin or mimic vac to give your citp ld creatures like avalanche riders or something. just saying.

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